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Example question: Can being cold or wet be a significant influence in getting the common cold?

When I read that question, the "coldest" temperature in that question is 60 degree, while in my knowledge, the human temperature is 37 :)

Should we:

  • convert all imperial units to metric because most place of the world use metric?
  • show both number so that everyone can easily understand?
  • just use the units which we are familiar with because converting units is not a big deal?

By the way, to type the degree symbol (°), use Alt+0176 or Alt+248 on PC, option shift 8 on Mac, or hold down in number zero in iPhone or iPad.

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    I would suggest that the default should always be metric since that is what is used in science. Even US or British scientists publish their results in metric when publishing in peer revewed journals.
    – terdon
    Jun 7 '15 at 14:59
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    Make it an answer and we will see how it is voted
    – Ooker
    Jun 7 '15 at 15:29
  • Hi Ooker! Since I don't have edit privileges here, would you kindly add instructions as to how to type the degree symbol on an iPad (or other iOS tablet)? It's easy but not obvious. In fact, I had to look it up online! The method is to hold down the number zero until a little box opens with the degree symbol in it! Thanks! Jul 6 '15 at 19:02
  • @Sue done. Thanks :D
    – Ooker
    Jul 7 '15 at 3:08
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Think about it like writing a recipe. If I say that you should preheat your oven to 200 degrees, I should really specify what kind of degrees. 200 Degrees F would barely slow-roast a chicken, while 200 Degrees C would surely put some brisk in your brisket.

When talking about temperature, just note the scale. It's pretty obvious what I'm using if I say "Anything close to 40 degrees is a high fever and should have you hunting for some paracetamol", but it's nice to note. I also don't recommend strictly enforcing this in cases where it's just obvious what is meant.

Everything else is pretty straight forward for conversion.

While the world is advanced, some folks still have to try and fill 60% of a tablespoon, while the rest of us just pour out 10 ml and be done with it. Let's not badger anyone unless there really is ambiguity.

And as it's currently a balmy 313.15 degrees Kelvin where I am, I'm off to get something cold and lemon-y.

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  • 2 teaspoons is perfectly adequate. :-) I agree with this answer, but as a comment on the question alluded to, even in the US science and medicine have mostly switched to metric (thankfully). I would never consider estimating the distance to the next town over in kilometers, but I would also never consider measuring that rash in inches or suggesting how many tablespoons (or fluid oz) of normal saline ought to be administered. Temperature units is the only one that really vacillates within medicine, and as you pointed out - it's obvious.
    – Susan
    Jun 7 '15 at 15:19
  • Let's see what others say. And well, just a side note (I don't want to ruin your joke), Kelvin is one of the fundamental units, like meter or kilogram. You don't say "5 degrees meter", do you?
    – Ooker
    Jun 7 '15 at 15:22
  • @Susan beside of temperature, is there any other unit we need to have caution?
    – Ooker
    Jun 7 '15 at 15:27
  • @Ooker People occasionally use ft/lbs for human height/weight, probably because (along with Temp), it's something that patients are often reporting so we have to deal with what they say. (Drugs are always dosed in metric units AFAIK, and lab tests measuring concentration mass/vol. are usually mg/dL, just like the rest of the world. Not sure about the UK.) Anyway, I'm with Tim here - it's good practice to report units whenever you give a measurement anyway, and in that case there's no ambiguity.
    – Susan
    Jun 7 '15 at 15:36
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Note that you won't be able to force the users to write the units you want. On Cooking, we're glad when they at least think of writing down which scale they are using, C or F, but they frequently don't do that.

We have made the experience that they don't complain when their post is edited to show both units, so we frequently do this. But it is based on a guess what they meant. Luckily, it's frequently visible from context from us (we hope nobody's fridge went to 45 C), I don't know how it will be on Health.

If Health decides to enforce a single unit, the consequences will be

  • the majority of users will disregard the guidelines
  • people will have to take the time to edit lots of others' posts. If only a few editors do it, it may feel like a Sisyphean task after time.
  • if there is one unit chosen, people will grumble when the post they wrote and understood is changed to a unit they can't understand or relate to. So the only way to not disgruntle them is to edit posts to contain both units.

See also the old Cooking discussion on enforcing standard units (despite the accepted answer, almost nobody bothers with edits - maybe C to F are a bit more common, because there are more Americans around) and this request which resulted in a user script. I don't use it, but I hear some of the regular users are happy with it.

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  • Thanks for introducing the script. I'm happy with that :D
    – Ooker
    Jun 8 '15 at 8:25
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If you really want to have a default, that should be metric. There is a clear consensus in favor of metric in the sciences. I have never seen imperial units used in peer-reviewed papers.

Both biological and medical journals will insist on using metric and won't allow imperial. At least, none of the ones I have published in or read in my ~15 years as a biologist do.

So, if you're going for a standard, use metric. Whether or not this site really needs a rigorous standard for this is another question. This is not a peer-reviewed journal, it's a site for "medical specialists, students, dietitians, and anyone with health-related questions". However, if a standard is to be decided I would recommend it is the standard already adopted in the broader field of the health sciences: metric.

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    "Whether or not this site really needs a rigorous standard for this" seems to be this question the way I read the bulleted options. Clearly, metric wins out any day if we do require everybody to do the same thing, but it's not clear to me that that is worth enforcing.
    – Susan
    Jun 7 '15 at 15:50
  • @Susan fair enough, but I don't participate enough here to presume to have an opinion. All I can say is that if Health.se chooses to enforce a default, that really should be metric.
    – terdon
    Jun 7 '15 at 15:52
  • ........agreed.
    – Susan
    Jun 7 '15 at 15:54

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