Timeline for Defibrillating Health.SE
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| Nov 11, 2017 at 16:09 | comment | added | DoctorWhom | @AtlLED thank you for the suggestions, I'll look into them. Almost all of my bio posts are medical related. But a good number of my questions and a few answers got shot down because they were too medical. I'm a relatively recent MD/MPH grad, a few years into a dual residency. I can see both sides to this whole thing. I certainly feel what drives other pros away from Health. By seeing what else is out there for professional QA type sites, it'll help me understand what's worthwhile to try. It's kind of sad, though, SE has the potential to foster a beautiful academic community. | |
| Nov 11, 2017 at 15:57 | comment | added | DoctorWhom | @Narusan-sedated Yes and TBH, I'm starting to think that we really will have to go down the asystole side of the ACLS algorithm and push epinephrine - a massive cull of ALL low quality questions, strict and harsh modding, shutting down wrong questions and answers rapidly (e.g. lowering the # of votes required to close to maybe just 2), giving more privileges to high rep users, putting in hard stops for asking questions, etc. Worth a try. Because if a health QA site isn't adequately reviewed by experts able to discern correct from incorrect, honestly, it risks causing HARM just by existing. | |
| Nov 11, 2017 at 15:55 | comment | added | Atl LED | @DoctorWhom I also started on biology, and I still use it, and find it more useful than this site. When I have a question, related to Medicine, it is frequently related to the base biology. Now I'm an MD PhD but I had answers and questions on there that blurred the line before Health existed. To this day I think my highest rated answer there is on neck wounds. | |
| Nov 11, 2017 at 15:52 | comment | added | Atl LED | @DoctorWhom in other words, you need to do what we tell patients all the time, stop turning to Google and ask a doctor. I don't know what the demand is like amongst recent graduates, or fellows, but I really think that the demand is close to 0 amongst established physicians. | |
| Nov 11, 2017 at 15:47 | comment | added | Atl LED | @DoctorWhom I was not exaggerating when I've seen dozens of different permutations. Many are built in to Integrated Systems. Ask around to physicians in institutions and you can get plenty of examples. | |
| Nov 11, 2017 at 15:45 | comment | added | DoctorWhom | @AtlLED no, I just looked at it and had no idea it existed. Exciting! Will definitely check it out tonight (if last night's white cloud comes back). | |
| Nov 11, 2017 at 15:40 | comment | added | Atl LED | @DoctorWhom have you tried SERMO? | |
| Nov 11, 2017 at 15:39 | comment | added | DoctorWhom | I started on biology SE during med school before Health existed, and was active but disappointed that medical questions were largely off topic. I had a number of excellent questions that were well suited to the SE format, and knew other students who did as well. And the medical field, because of its direct impact on human life, might be the most important field of all to have robust forums for refining knowledge, engaging fresh eyes' perspectives, stimulating deeper inquiry and generating innovations. Also, not everyone remains connected to academics. | |
| Nov 11, 2017 at 15:30 | comment | added | DoctorWhom | Some specifically vocal leaders were not professionals themselves, and to be blunt, they seemed offended by an inaccurate perception of elitism. They argued basically that all questions are equally valid and separation was a sort of unfair segregation. They wouldn't consider that the needs of the audiences were different. Now here we are, with scores of low quality questions for each academic level question, drowning them out and driving academics away. Again to be blunt. | |
| Nov 11, 2017 at 15:27 | comment | added | DoctorWhom | I genuinely love the model of SE and wish we had a critical mass for highly academic discussions on the site! Sadly I think it failed because we didn't separate professional/academic questions from non-professional (basically, patients') questions from the start. I fought in Area 51 for the dual Health and Medicine sites, I saw the need to differentiate as keeping academic level questions separate maintains a stimulating community for professionals, but the leaders didn't. | |
| Nov 11, 2017 at 15:01 | comment | added | DoctorWhom | @AtlLED I would be super interested in learning what MD Q/A sites exist, as I have not run into ANY of them except a couple that were more pre-med applicant oriented (e.g. SDN). I eagerly searched for some sort of professional/student QA website during pre-med/med school and found none. Some of my colleagues at the time were really interested as well. If sharing names here is frowned upon, please send a chat - I AM really interested. I realize that by design in our profession we ask each other questions, and those who stick with academic institutions have even more opportunities. | |
| Nov 10, 2017 at 17:07 | comment | added | Atl LED | @Narusan-sedated I understand that, and hope that it will work. I wanted to highlight however that there is a difference from being willing to participate and feeling as though there is a need for such a site. Many of the professionals I know felt as though there was a need for an SE model site in their field. I still appreciate SE biology for example. | |
| Nov 10, 2017 at 17:01 | comment | added | Narusan | This is why I think we need a change of site name, scope and target audience. | |
| Nov 10, 2017 at 17:00 | comment | added | Atl LED | Admittedly that was with the front page of questions that looked similar to the way they do today. @anongoodnurse maybe able to speak to this as well. | |
| Nov 10, 2017 at 16:58 | comment | added | Atl LED | @Narusan-sedated Others may find something different. I've always practiced at tier 1 research institutions, which have had subscriptions to Q/A forums specifically for MDs. A private practitioner in rural Montana might have the different experience and I would be curious to know that. I would actually participate in a public form of experts and think it's a good idea, but I don't think that there's demand for it. I have literally tried to pitch this to other Physicians IRL and failed. | |
| Nov 10, 2017 at 16:53 | comment | added | Narusan | Some users (@DoctorWhom) who are from the U.S. have stated their desire claiming that there is nothing like SE for MD's in the U.S. I'm not from there, so I can't tell. If you say a site targeted at MD's is not relevant for you and won't be helpful, I can perfectly understand that. I fear that helping none-professionals is out of question though sadly, because the amount of time needed is too high and the quality of questions way too low. | |
| Nov 10, 2017 at 16:49 | comment | added | Atl LED | I don't know what your background is but I can say that there's really no/little market desire for an SE site for MD's in the US. | |
| Nov 10, 2017 at 16:44 | comment | added | Narusan | I have the feeling that we've already tried to run Frankenstein's Monster the past few months, and I'm at a point where I'll either give up or punch out some CPR. I think that we drastically need to change the target audience of the site from newbies to professionals. | |
| Nov 10, 2017 at 16:39 | history | answered | Atl LED | CC BY-SA 3.0 |